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Nestoria Interview – Christopher Parker – Loughborough University

With this year’s State of the Map conference rapidly approaching, for this month’s Nestoria Interview we once again turn our attention to rapidly growing community mapping project OpenStreetMap (OSM).

Specifically we have the pleasure of interviewing Christopher J. Parker, who will be speaking at this year’s SOTM.

Currently studying a PhD in human interaction at Loughborough University, focusing on the phenomenon of “Volunteered Geographic Information” (VGI). In July 2009, he will be presenting his current findings on “Value and How it Changes Everything” at State of the Map 2009.

Christopher, thanks for talking with us.

1. Please tell us about your current work related to OSM.

As said in my bio, I am researching Volunteered Geographic Information from a human factors point of view. Broadly speaking, this is where people share their information (photos, videos, locations etc) with the world by uploading it to the web and adding a geotag. The output from this can be as simple as displaying where everyone’s photos were taken on a map (as with sites such as Panorama and Flickr), or the map itself (as with OpenStreetMap) where the volunteered information is the collection of ‘nodes’ and polylines which make up the map you see. As anyone who follows social media will know, the idea of this is very recent, with the term VGI only being coined in 2007 by Prof. Michael Goodchild in 2007 (Citizens as Sensors: The world of Volunteered Geography).

So what does this mean? There are a lot of questions are floating around at the moment to do with how we perceive this Volunteered Information. Aside from the technical quality (a very contentious issue), how do we as users perceive volunteered information differently from professional information. How and why do we value a volunteered source higher than a technically more complete professional source of higher quality. What is even more interesting is the idea of an emotional interface (Roush, 2007, Second Earth. Technology Review. 2007. July/ August. P39-48) where the geospatial element (the map the data is overlaid onto) is just a medium through which to explorer the emotions generated by content such as holiday photos.

OpenStreetMap, being a system almost entirely created, developed and edited by volunteers is an excellent example of Volunteered Geographic Information. Unlike allot of websites which may only cover one area of VGI (such as geotagging where a YouTube video was shot), OpenStreetMap provides a highly diverse range of features, so one may expect it to be a good representation of the human factors which run through the VGI community.

Because of this, I am interviewing a wide range of OpenStreetMap users, contributors and developers about their experiences and feelings related to use of OpenStreetMap and why they see it differently to other map sources. The research is geared away from technical issues and OSM specific topics, and other VGI sources such as Google Map Maker are being considered as well. The result of this should be to provide some unique insight into the general perception of the VGI sources, applicable to a wide range of VGI uses and applications; not just one very fast developing website.

2. What made you think this was an interesting topic? And what has the response from the OSM community been?

When I started my PhD at Loughborough I was asked to research anything I could link to the human factors of travel. After reading around the subject, the idea of people using GPS devices to ‘map’ their environment kept cropping up time and time again. I wanted to find a topic that was pretty sparse in research to date, was cutting edge and had allot of potential to move forward. The topic of Volunteered Geographic Information was probably the best find from this period as (at the time) it was only just over a year old in definition and all the research seemed to be either from a GIS technical slant or that of future speculation. I have always had an interest in technology with my background in product design, so reading about how this technology could potentially revolutionise the perception of our environment really got a fire lit under me. I suppose what sold it to me though was the lack of human factors research. One can see a new technology in many ways, but unless one understands why we perceive it the way we do, or why it diffuses the way it does, then it is hard to fully utilise it. I wanted to be able to provide that academic background that would give guidelines to developers and users so their products and services using this volunteered information would actually mean something to the consumers.

To date, the reaction from the OSM community I have been studying has been very positive. At the end of my interviews I always ask if they have any questions, and invariably it is “what have you found in your research”, followed by at least ten minutes of me explaining the findings of user value to date. I think possibly because those involved in OSM tend to be flying the flag for Open Source software the people I speak to are very happy to share their ideas and thoughts with the world.

3. It’s often said that only 1% of internet users are content creators, the rest are content consumers. Does your research support this theory, or do you think more and more users will become content creators as familiarity grows and tools become better?

Whether this statement is true or not is beyond my scope of research. Certainly there have been studies into this which show the producers in the traditional sense are outweighed by the consumers. However the maths seems to make perfect sense in that if you look at Second Life, which as of now (16:00, 17/06/2009, Second Life interface) has had 1,400,042 active users in the last 60 days. If only 1% of users produce content (in this case 3D objects) then you have 14,000 developers producing an interactive virtual world while receiving no income from Linden Lab who run the project. Now, how much of that is true is not for me to say, but even a 0.5% developer community would still be a very large contributor base.

I suppose the problem with this analogy is that it is based on the traditional view of the contributor as one who uses a relatively high degree of technical knowledge to produce something the average person either doesn’t want to or doesn’t know how; as in the case of Second Life objects. But here is the spanner in the works, what does content mean? I suppose this could be a whole area of research in itself, but one of the most exciting developments of the last few years has been the idea of putting a GPS tracker in your mobile devices. With user friendly software a child could upload their journey path from their phone to a map system, which in turn could work out the road network. Take a photograph of anything in the world, upload it to a site such as Flickr and the GPS tag that goes with it could place it on a map for anyone to explore. All of this is content in the VGI sense, where as Clay Shirky stated in his recent talk at TED (May 2009) “every time a new consumer joins this media landscape a new joins as well because the same equipment, phone, computers lets you consume and produce”. If we just geotag our information, potentially any information, it is VGI.

From everything I have read and researched to date I can only state with reasonable comfort that what we are experiencing today is just the tip of the iceberg. I would strongly encourage everyone who reads this interview to watch the 17 minute lecture by Clay Shirky linked above to get a much better case put forward than I can, but when more data and information is volunteered by normal people, the data we use may not be a representation of activity, but the activity itself.

I will close this point with a thought for everyone who has used Twitter (the 140 character long micro blog service). Type the name of any political party into search.twitter.com and you will see the personal and emotional feelings for that party come up across your screen not from any form of propaganda or media filter, but through the simple thoughts of you and me. Now consider what we would have if each micro blog post (or Tweet) came with the geo location of the writer. A map could be created of emotions towards political parties, or anything else you care to name, through the country and the world. I suppose this could be referred to Volunteered Emotional Geospatial Information (VEGI), and it may or may not follow the same human interaction issues as traditional VGI (If VGI can yet be referred to as traditional). However you could chose to look at this analogy, and the blurred role of the user and the, and in the words of Matrix not yet know “how far this rabbit hole really goes”.

4. Do you think your research findings will be applicable to all user generated content services (things like YouTube and Facebook)?

At this stage of my research I honestly do not know. My focus is at the moment on users either creating maps or creating locations such as coffee shops or other amenities on maps. Even to ask what I have found out in this area and how it applies to other forms of map mashups would be too presumptuous. However, certain trends are starting to emerge which suggest the user perception of volunteer generated maps is not quite what we would have thought when we first looked at it. My presentation at State of the Map 2009 (which will also be on my research blog) should be the unveiling of my first analysis of this data.

I think it is highly unlikely that users would view the volunteered content of a map generated with the help of a GPS device as the same as the video posted on YouTube by the disgruntled employee of some Multinational Organisation. Yet at the same time both forms of media have similar traits in the form of geo-tagging the information, openness and volunteer generated, so I would imagine there may be some similarities.

I think social media and its potential link with VGI is a very interesting topic and while, as I said before, my research may not directly influence the direction of Twitter, Facebook or other future sites, but it may influence the apps which run on them. I find it is better to see Facebook as a social operating system which allows apps to run, which in turn allow social networks to thrive; similar in a way to Microsoft Windows running Outlook which allows emails to be sent.

5. Based on your research what advice do you have for start-ups like Nestoria who are keen to benefit from the technological advancements and enthusiasm of the OSM community?

Ultimately, I feel it is a little early to provide any concrete advice from my research as it is still early days and the direction and scope of my findings may change dramatically over the next couple of years. That said, there are a few pieces of research which may prove very relevant.

Firstly I would say embrace the OSM community, but also look outside. There are probably more social networks existing than you can name, and they never stay the same in their constant and rapid evolution. I’m sure everyone can remember the first time they heard that strange word ‘Google’ uttered while they searched the information superhighway with the worlds #1 search engine of the day: Yahoo!

As a more direct take from my research, understand why and how your user base values your product or your competitors’ product. These are your true unique selling points (and their unique selling points) as they engage at the emotional level of gains over sacrifices. Every user is different and will see things in a different way, and technological superiority doesn’t always mean higher value. Sometimes why we value something so highly is a mystery to ourselves; so this is an elusive quest, but value is the key to satisfaction. Even if there is a product we may not like on an ethical level (possibly Microsoft?), we still value it higher than the competitor we ethically prefer because of X, Y and Z (possibly Linux?). So understanding why the value is what it is allows you to tailor your product or service to capitalise on those “warm fuzzy feelings” your product gives your uses, increasing satisfaction and hopefully social diffusion. How relevant my findings on user perception of the value of Volunteered Geographic Information is unknown, but I would advise any developer or mashup creating working from OSM data to take these findings into consideration when deciding how to progress in a world where the consumers and increasingly becoming the producers.

Thanks Christopher. We look forward to learning more at SOTM. For those interested, you can follow Christopher’s research on his blog and on twitter @Kyral210.

If this interview has whetted your appetite for all things SOTM you may be interest in our coverage of SOTM 2008.

past Nestoria interviews: Ryan Notz, Lance Johnson, and Peter Le Masurier.

Sponsoring State of the Map 2009

Fellow Nestorographers,

I’m delighted to announce to you that Nestoria will be a Bronze sponsor of this year’s State of the Map conference to be held from July 10th-12th in Amsterdam. SOTM is the annual OpenStreetMap gathering, and I’m very proud to say this will be the third year in a row we’ll be able to sponsor this great event. If you have even a passing interest in online cartography I recommend you attend and witness firsthand the passion and innovation of the global community behind OpenStreetMap.

OpenStreetMap State of the Map

Last year’s event in Limerick was excellent. OSM has grown rapidly since then (the 100,000 registered contributors milestone was just passed – up from 35,000 a year ago), and this year’s conference will no doubt reflect that with a diverse line-up of interesting talks delivered by speakers from around the world.

Sponsoring SOTM09 continues our long-standing tradition of supporting OSM. Over a year ago we launched our parallel version of Nestoria using OSM maps, as a way to showcase the amazing progress of the volunteers in both coverage and comprehensiveness. Please check it out in places like London, or on our German site in Berlin. I have no doubt you’ll be impressed. Thanks to the hard work of the volunteers and (increasingly) data and financial donations from forward thinking organisations, OpenStreetMap is at the cutting edge of cartography.

Interesting for us as a business is that the first day of this year’s conference will focus on the emerging commercial use of OpenStreetMap. More and more businesses, investors, and governmental bodies are seeing the potential of the crowd-sourced geo movement. We’re starting to see interesting commercial applications, a trend I had the chance to comment on over at TechCrunch UK a few months ago. Hopefully we’ll have some news of our own to announce in this respect before the conference.

Many thanks to the organisers for putting together what is certain to be a stimulating and enjoyable gathering, and for giving us the chance to be associated with the innovation around OSM. We hope to see all of you there.

On final note, if you’re interested in learning more about OpenStreetMap you may be interested in our past interviews with Andy Allan, Muki Haklay, or OSM founder Steve Coast.

Nestoria Interview – Muki Haklay – University College London

This month for our Nestoria Interview we chat with Muki Haklay a Senior Lecturer at University College London’s Department of Civil, Environmental and Geomatic Engineering. A long time participant in, follower and commentator on the ‘neogeography’ trend, Muki recently published about OpenStreetMap, and its explosive growth. He is a fellow of the Royal Geographic Society and a member of the Association for Geographical Information (AGI).

Muki, many thanks for speaking with us

1. Why is that OSM and other neogeography projects have grown so rapidly in the past few years?
I think that around 2005 there was a fundamental shift in some underlying technologies and social trends that allowed it. Of the wider driving forces, I think that there are 5 significant ones: GPS availability, Web standards, Broadband, Data storage and a new paradigm in programming APIs.

Quickly explaining what I mean:

1st May 2000 should be the birthday of Neogeography, because that was the day when President Clinton removed the selective availability of GPS signal so we can capture locations easily and with good accuracy. Without this decision, we wouldn’t have the huge explosion in location data.

The second thing is web standards. I still remember when I first read on Dave Winer’s blog (although it wasn’t yet called that) about the release of SOAP, and the whole development of XML and other standards. Without the evolution of XML,SOAP and the gradual adaption of browsers that are capable of running AJAX which took some years, we wouldn’t be able to run geographical applications which usually require more processing than an email application.

The third is broadband access – as Tom Friedman notes in ‘The World is Flat’ – because of the Dot.Com crash and the infrastructure that companies like Global Crossing and WorldCom created at the end of the 90s, we now got cheap and fast broadband across the world. Think about piping lots of tiles to the user’s browser and you realise that you can’t do it over a dialup.

The fourth point is data storage. We tend to forget that as late as 2000, the cost of gigabyte storage was about $10, which again limits the ability to tile the world. By 2005, it was 50c.

Finally, with all these things, a new paradigm of light APIs emerged. The learning curve of Google API is much shorter than, say, understanding how to program a typical GIS mapping sever, such as ArcIMS or MapServer.

Take all these together, and you have an explanation of why Neogeography happened in 2005 and not 1995. It’s interesting to notice how, as in many other aspects of geographical computations, GIS and Geography is more complex/voluminous/computationally intensive so it lags behind other applications by about 10-15 years. You can show similar lags in the development of geographic technologies in previous generations of computing platforms.

2. What are the implications for the professional GIS community?
I’ve noted on my blog the implications of all these are far reaching. For too many employers, the justification in employing GIS professionals is that the software used to create maps is very complex, so having specialists who produce maps is justified. But if it is possible to create maps with a simple API instead of buying an expensive and difficult to maintain Internet mapping server software, or if it is enough to analyse the data by creating a point map on Google Earth – then why keep the expensive professional?

This is a good thing in the long run. GIS analysis and clever use of data and analysis techniques are the real benefits of using a professional GIS package, and these are things that an API can’t handle (for now) so GIS professionals should move up the chain and focus on services where their geographic knowledge really adds value. It’s much more exciting and interesting to use GIS to do proper analysis and not just to produce maps…

3. You recently posted about a comprehensive evaluation of comprehensiveness of OSM geodata versus professionally gathered data. What did you learn?
The report is quite extensive and covers lots of aspects of the OSM data, so it’s worth focusing on some highlights.

One of the most striking aspects is that OSM provides a different type of data in terms of accuracy – and that for many applications this is absolutely fine. Not everyone need very accurate data – so OSM teach us what is good enough in geographic information.

In terms of quality, just as in the case of open source code, we need to think about the importance of Raymond statement ‘Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow’ For mapping, this should be translated as the number of contributors that worked on an area and therefore removed ‘bugs’ from it. And this is an aspect that the OSM crowd need to figure out and that will improve quality. Too many places are covered by a single person.

I’ve also understood the completeness is more important than high accuracy – as you think about fitness for purpose, you understand that once OSM will get to 75-80% coverage of a place, the data will be very valuable and very usable.

One of the motivation for another part of the analysis was a matter-of-fact comment from Steve Coast (ed: see past Nestoria Interview with Steve Coast) about mapping less attractive locations (council estates) and I wanted to check if this tally with government measures of deprivation. Indeed, more deprived areas are far less mapped then wealthy areas. For me, that’s one of the overlooked aspects of Neogeography – it doesn’t really happen in digitally excluded place. Even in places such as India where Google do their Map Maker activities, they do it with students, who are naturally coming from a wealthier background and not with socially excluded people…

4. What effects will crowd sourced geodata have for the the web community in general and start ups, like Nestoria, in particular?
Well, because we’re just three years since it really took off, we need to wait and see which sources are becoming stable and reliable.

For example, as we get more geotagged images, and with tools like photosynth and the developments in image recognition, I think that we will see lots of applications that use visual imagery to extract geographic information – think of getting data on all the shops in an area by looking at their signs.

As I’ve noted, we also need to wait until some places will have a robust coverage – once OSM got proper coverage of a major city such as London I’m sure that we will see exciting applications from CloudMade or similar ventures that build on it. It’ll enable many more start-ups in the area of geographic information. For example, UCL and London 21 Sustainability Network are currently setting up a community mapping social enterprise (that’s like a start-up, but all profits go for social goals). It’s called ‘Mapping for Change’ and it will focus on making places more sustainable. Getting the data is a major issue for us. Using OSM as our source of geographic information will enable us to spend our effort and money on engaging communities, not on buying data. I’m sure that there will be many more examples.

Thanks Muki. We recommend anyone interested in tracking Muki’s work learning from his experience subscribe to his blog. We look forward to watching OpenStreetMap’s continued growth in coverage and comprehensiveness, and finding ways for Nestoria to work together with the academic community. Readers may be interested in our past cooperations with UCL).

past Nestoria interviews: Brad Inman, Simon Baker, and Tim Youngman.

Nestoria sponsors SOTM08

Fellow Nestorfolk!

Some good news. This year we will once again be sponsoring the State of the Map conference. State of the Map is the annual gathering for anyone interested in OpenStreetMap, an open source movement mapping the world. The conference will be the 12th and 13th of July in Limerick, Ireland. Members of the Nestoria team will be both in the audience and speaking.

OSM seems to really picking up speed both in terms of coverage and quality of maps and number of participants. Our most recent experiment with OpenStreetMap data was the creation of a parallel version of both Nestoria Spain and the UK to show the progress of OpenStreetMap. The conference will be a great chance to compare notes, hear some interesting talks, and meet fellow geo-enthusiasts. We hope to see you there.

OpenStreetMap version of Nestoria

Greetings fellow Nestorhamians!

One of the things users like most about the property search results on Nestoria is the way we use maps. So it’s only natural that since day one we’ve kept a close watch on innovation in the online cartography space. We regularly interview thought leaders and innovators, we’ve sponsored projects like Mapstraction and Living with Dragons, and spoken at the odd industry event. Along the way we were very proud to be cited by Google as the Google maps case study.

Today we’re happy to play a small part in another milestone on the long path of neogeography innovation. Like many folks in the geocommunity we’ve followed OpenStreetMap with interest. Started in 2004, OSM is a volunteer project to map the world. At first glance that might sound absurd, but keep in mind that Wikipedia sounded silly at first as well. Today Wikipedia is used by literally millions of people every day. Similarly, most of the software used to power the internet was created by volunteer driven projects.

Nevertheless, many people are skeptical that this sort of community driven data collection can work, that it can actually create usable data.

Fair enough, seeing is perhaps a steps towards believing. We’ve created a parallel version of our site that uses maps from OpenStreetMap maps rather than the traditional Google maps. Every page on our site can also be viewed in OSM mode, so folks can do a head to head comparison.

Here’s an example, a screenshot of Chelsea with an OpenStreetMap map:

OSM Chelsea

and here’s a screenshot of Chelsea with Google maps:

OSM Chelsea

As you can see the OSM maps in many part of the UK are very good. Have a look for yourself at openstreetmap.nestoria.co.uk, or by simply changing the www in any Nestoria search results page URL to openstreetmap.

OpenStreetMap seems to really be gaining momentum. If you aren’t familiar with the project, please check it out. Recent highlights include the donation of some large geodatasets by commercial organisations and municipalities that realize the community is better placed to maintain the data, and the comprehensive mapping of several large cities. OSM is now used by several universities, including Oxford.

One of the key advantages of OSM is that it’s volunteer driven, meaning maps can be made of anywhere people feel like making maps of. There are many parts of the world professional geodata companies don’t focus on, for understandable financial reasons. As examples, OSM volunteers have recently mapped Stanley in the Falkland Islands, cities in the Philippines, and will be carving up India in February.

One question this experiment will no doubt raise is whether we plan to move away from Google maps. No, we don’t. Google maps are excellent. It’s been especially impressive to see the functionality continue to evolve (and push others in the industry to improve) over the last two years. As believers in the open source movement we wanted simply wanted to create a way to highlight some the amazing progress of the volunteers behind OpenStreetMap.

Some technical details for those interested in how it all works. To be honest it was pretty simple thanks to Mapstraction, and the amazing flexibility of the Google Maps API. Anyone interested in embeddable maps, or even javascript in general should check out Mapstraction. Andrew Turner recently wrote a great tutorial; a good place to start. Also perhaps interesting is our interview with Steve Coast, founder of OpenStreetMap, from last year.

On a final note, this experiment isn’t just limited to the UK, we’ve also created the same OpenStreetMap version of Nestoria in Spain. Just surf to openstreetmap.nestoria.es and let the fun begin. In general Spain is less well mapped, though there are some areas like Sol in central Madrid that are very comprehensive.

Enjoy, and, as with everything we do here at Nestoria, please let us know what you think.