Fellow Nestordammers,
I’m delighted to announce that for the third year in a row we will be sponsoring WhereCamp EU! After London in 2010 and Berlin in 2011, ths year’s event will be in Amsterdam on April 28th and 29th.
As always “camp” events are fairly free form, so it’s hard to know exactly what to expect. But if past years are any guide there will be lively discussion, some interesting demos, and (just perhaps) a geobeer or three along the way. The pace of innovation in online cartography continues to accelerate, there is so much to discuss. Several members of the Nestoria team will be in attendance. We look forward to seeing you there.
Many thanks to the orgaisers and other sponsors for creating what is sure to be a great weekend. The best way to stay up to date on WhereCamp EU is of course via the twitter feed.
On a final note, if you’re interested in all things web and geo but unfortunately can’t make it to Amsterdam, consider joining us at #geomob events in London.
Fellow Nestoriaks,
Over the last few weeks we’ve not just switched map providers, but also rolled out an array of new features designed to improve the property searching experience.
1. Geotargetting
If you visit our sites in a modern browser, you’ll see the option in the search box (as shown here on our Italian site) to search by letting your browser tell us your location. If you click it and share your location with us, your browser turns your location into longitude and latitude, and your search is launched. It’s a nice example of letting technology do the work for you.
2. Banning listings you dislike
For some time users have asked us for the ability to block or ban certain listings. We do our best to filter all terrible listings from the search results, so that you never even see them. Unfortunately though, we’re not perfect (yet), and more importantly there are many things that we just can’t know - like availability or personal taste. So now we give you the ability to block any listing that you don’t like from the search results. Click and you’ll never see that listing again. So go crazy, start banning up a storm. But remember - with great power comes great responsibility.
As you can see in this screen shot, the banning button appears on each listing when you move your mouse over the listing.
3. Saving listings
Another much requested feature is the opposite of banning: saving. It works exactly as you’d expect, click the save button on each lsiting and it will go to your save list. To save you’ll need to sign in (so we can remember you when you come back).
At the upper right of each page (screenshot below from our German service) you’ll now see a small bar which shows you how many listings you’ve banned and saved (once you’ve signed in). It also has a button that when clicks reveals your save list, gives you the option of logging out, and the chance to reset your ban list.
On a final note we’ve also fine tuned the appearance and functionality of Nestoria on the ipad. It’s a start but you can expect much more from us in the coming months on the mobile front.
Please let us know what you think about all of these features and how we can go about making property searching simpler.
Fellow Nestoria fans,
this week we went live with a significant change to our service - in most countries we’ve moved away from Google maps and are now relying exclusively on OpenStreetMap maps served by MapQuest.
Before I dive into the why (and the how for all our neogeo mapping freaks amongst our readership), let me say that Google maps remains a phenomenal service that is continually adding amazingly innovative new functionalities. The boom in online cartography witnessed over the last years was kicked off by the launch of Google maps, and I can still remember the light bulb going on in my head when in early 2005 I saw housingmaps.com, the first Google maps mashup. It was clear I was looking at the future. A little over a year later, in June 2006, we launched Nestoria. So I am the first to recognize the unequaled contribution Google has made and continues to make in unlocking the potential of cartography for the world (and technology in general).
In 2006 I had another “ah-ha” moment as well, though. I met Steve Coast, the founder of OpenStreetMap. He explained the idea - a free and editable map of the world made by user contribution. A map that would not just allow me to get the final rendered output, but also the actual data underneath. At the time, looking at Steve as he showed me the GPS device he was using to map the details of our meeting (which took place in a little cafe in Soho across the street from the John Snow pub), the idea of creating a viable map via volunteer submissions seemed preposterous in the extreme. But I watched as OSM grew and grew from those humble beginnings. Now, less than six years later, that map powers Nestoria thanks to millions of man hours of contribution by individuals and organizations that recognize the power of open data.
So, why have we switched? There are four main reasons
1. The maps are equal or better
OpenStreetMap’s great strength is that anyone can contibute. Since the project started over 500,000 people around the world have signed up to do just that, often going into insane levels of detail. Fixes can be added and reflected in the maps very quickly. It is a fundamentally different model than the traditional “only an expert from the government can come make the map” model. People can map whichever features are important to them (paths, pubs, buildings, etc) and escape the car centric focus of many mapping services. All of this data is then made freely available for all to use. Increasingly government agencies are realising that it makes more sense to cooperate with and benefit from this new approach to data gathering and maintenance.
Thanks to the hard work of all of these volunteers, in many places of the world, particularly the European countries we were focused on, OSM maps are of equal or better quality than any other widely available mapping service.
2. It’s another visible way for us to support open data
Our service does nothing more (and nothing less!) than aggregate data from many different sources and present it in an easy to use format. We benefit greatly from open data, and as such we want to do our part (within the limited resources of a start-up) to help the open data movement. This is why we sponsor OpenStreetMap conferences and recently donated to OpenStreetMap’s humanitarian efforts. This is why we feature the work of open data advocates on our blog, and also why we make our own data available via our API and other tools. We are a company that believes in open data.
3. Google introduced charging for map usage
Earlier this year Google announced that they would begin introducing limits to the use of Google maps by commercial websites. The good news is that Nestoria has grown nicely since our start in 2006. The bad news was that our size meant that we were well over the free usage limits Google announced.
In November I was contacted by a sales person from the Google Enterprise team. I had suspected we might be over the limit. Obviously no one looks forward to a new cost for their business, but I approached the talk with an open mind. Google Maps is a great service, and we had benefited greatly from it. As a businessperson, I know there’s no such thing as a free lunch, and so I was open to paying Google a reasonable fee for their continued service.
Unfortunately Google’s sales process was not good. Having agreed to a time for a call, the sales rep missed the appointment with no warning, instead calling me 45 minutes late. It was quickly obvious he had done no research whatsoever about our service, what we do, or even where (in which countries) we do it. He was unable to explain the basics of the new charging regime - for example, what exactly is a “map-view”, telling me instead to “ask your developers”. Finally he quoted a price to continue using Google Maps (just on nestoria.co.uk, one of eight countries we operate in) that would have bankrupted our company.
Google’s excellence in technical services was definitely not matched by its salesmanship. The experience was disappointing, and I say this as the founder of a site that has often been featured by Google in promotional literature for our innovative use of Google maps. Having always envisioned that we would someday move to OSM, this was the nudge that pushed us over the cliff.
In the interest of fairness I should also mention that Google has been a great supporter of OSM in the past, donating funds for hardware for instance, and hopefully they will continue to be far into the future. Google remains a great supporter of opensource software with initiatives like their excellent Summer of Code initiative.
We’re very thankful to Google for all the innovation they encourage and for allowing us to use their maps service for free for years. The decision to introduce charging is theirs to make and we can’t argue with it. Despite this though, I have to question some of the logic they presented regarding their reasons for introducing charging now. Google claims charging is needed to ensure the long term commercial viability of the service, but is belt tightening really needed at the same time as Google announces record revenues and profits?
More importantly though I wonder if the decision really achieves the desired outcome. While us moving away from Google Maps will reduce some fractional amount of bandwidth costs for Google it also means our team of engineers will be spending our time working with, and innovating on, other geo technologies. While on the one hand Google spends a lot of effort trying to court developers, decisions like this turn them away. Especially combined with the subpar sales implementation I experienced, this seems to go completely against the ecosystem model that has enabled Google Maps to flourish, which is disappointing.
4. The tools are ready.
Despite all of this, we would not have been technically able to make the switch unless there was a solid set of tools and services around OSM that made the switch possible. I’ll go into these in more detail in the technical part of this post, but let me here once again publicly thank all the developers around the world who have worked hard over the last few years to create the modern neogeo tool chain from scratch. Also let me explicitly thank the companies like AOL’s Mapquest and Microsoft’s Bing who are actively supporting OpenStreetMap.
Before I dive into the technical minutiae, let me say that all of this isn’t to imply that OSM maps are perfect. No map ever is. But it all added up to a compelling sense that now was the time to switch. Nevertheless if you see problems, please tell us (via twitter or the feedback link on the page you are using). Or, better, please get involved with OSM and start contributing.
Now, in the interest of encouraging innovation (and thanking those who made this move possible) let’s move on to the technical fun of HOW we actually switched map providers?
When we realized it was time for us to make the move we faced one big decision - should we use someone else’s OSM tiles or should we render and serve our own? We called in an expert to advise us. OSM expert, and former Nestoria blog interviewee, Andy Allan runs OpenCycleMap, a rendering of OSM data designed specifically with the interests of cyclists in mind. He was kind enough to come to Nestoria HQ and spend some time taking us through the pros and cons of rendering our own tiles. Rendering has the advantage that you can make the map look exactly the way you want. When done well this can produce phenomenal results, a good example of this is Michal Migurski’s recently announced terrain layer, but unfortunately it’s no small technical undertaking, especially when we’ve also got a property search engine to run.
We concluded the only viable path was for us to leave the rendering and serving to experts and use someone else’s OSM tileset. At this point the more astute of you may be asking why we dont just use the tiles from openstreetmap.org directly. That’s unfortunately not an option due to OSM’s tile usage policy. As a volunteer run organization, OSM doesn’t have the technical or financial resources to serve tiles for us and the whole world. Luckily however several companies have stepped in to fill this gap - CloudMade has for several years offered an OSM tile layer for all to use. In 2010 MapQuest released a similar service. While we are longtime fans of CloudMade (we use their tiles on our Where Can I Live? service), for their global infrastrucutre and speed we decided we’d prefer to use MapQuest’s OSM tiles. But now the question was how to get the OSM tiles on to our pages.
First of all, if your website is using a map I strongly advise you to consider using Mapstraction, which, as the name implies, is a javascript mapping abstraction layer. You write your code using Mapstraction methods and can then switch between anyone of 10 or more supported mapping services. Even if you plan to stay with one mapping provider this can make sense as they create new versions (as Google did several years ago when they released version 3 of their service requiring a different syntax than version 2). The good news is we’ve been using Mapstraction since the very beginning of Nestoria, in fact we funded the initial development - this was the topic of my 2006 meeting with Steve Coast and others. Five years later Mapstraction continues to flourish, with an active community of developers. At this point in the project (mid-Nov) Mapstraction offered two different services for loading OSM based tiles: CloudMade and OpenLayers. Cloudmade would mean using Cloudmade tiles. OpenLayers was an option, but not a technology we had much experience with. Meanwhile over the last few months I had been hearing a lot of buzz abouta new mapping library called Leaflet. Leaflet is also from the folks in the CloudMade team, but is newer (thus benefiting from all the lessons learned in building the original CloudMade map library) and is opensource. Leaflet allows the user to request any tileset, configuring it to query MapQuest was trivial. Everyone can contribute and in the six months or so since Leaflet launched almost 150 developers have forked the code. Lots of people are submitting patches, the pace of development is rapid, and the documentation is excellent.
Unfortunately, there was no Mapstraction plugin for Leaflet. And this is where the magic of an engaged and vibrant open source community once again enters our tale. The very day I pondered whether to dive in an write a Leaflet plugin, Ben Welsh submitted exactly what we needed to github for all to use (and modify). It worked almost perfectly. A few minor tweaks (and submitted patches) later we had an OSM map on Nestoria. Many thanks Ben!
So, there you have it - OSM to MapQuest to Leaflet to Mapstraction. If anyone out there can top that neogeo chain I’ll be impressed. Please let us know what you think or if you have any questions.
BTW - if all this has raised your interest in all things geo (and you’re in London), please do come to the next #geomob event on 16 February where I’ll be giving a talk about our move away from Google Maps.
UPDATE: in the comments below paulmaunders points to this very good post where he lays out the options his firm, Fubra, considered under similar circumstances.
Best wishes to one and all.

Bon Noel, Buon Natale, Frohe Weihnachten, Merry Christmas, Feliz Navidad, Feliz Natal to all of our partners and most of all to all the users of Nestoria worldwide.
Fellow Nestofarians,
2011 has been a difficult year for most developed economies, and the only certainty 2012 offers is more uncertainty. It’s easy in such times to get overwhelmed and lose the bigger picture. The holiday season is a good chance to break the every day schedule and instead reflect on how lucky we all are. In this spirit, this year, rather than sending our clients and partners Christmas gifts, we’ve instead donated on their behalf to a project we believe has the potential to improve the lives of millions: the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT).
Diligent Nestoria followers will know that we’ve been long-time supporters of OpenStreetMap, but you might not know of the great work HOT has been doing. The project focuses on getting the humanitarian and open mapping communities to work together in two ways.
Firstly, many parts of the world don’t have easy to use (ie digitally shareable), accurate maps, or the existing maps are out of date due to natural disasters. HOT helps coordinate efforts to rapidly focus volunteer mappers to address this need - both via fieldwork with GPS devices, but also from across the world using satellite imagery - after a disaster. A great example of the effectiveness of a global community of volunteer mappers diving in to help is this visualization made by ItoWorld of the response to the Haiti Earthquake a few years ago.
What’s so inspiring about this is that it lets people 1000’s of miles away from the disaster immediately and tangibly work to help improve the situation on the ground.
Secondly HOT works to stimulate open mapping via advocacy, training and outreach literally across the world. Here’s a great presentation about some of the training work HOT has undertaken in Indonesia.
This very week HOT has been activated to help map health facilities in Libya.
We’re proud to be able to support HOT and their mission. If this post has inspired you please get involved with HOT, more help is always needed. It can be as simple spending a few hours tracing satellite imagery. HOT operates a task server with a list of projects that need help. Please get involved. Hopefully we’ve interested you enough to follow HOT’s progress via their twitter feed. If you’re in London, we’re hoping to have someone from HOT present at one of our upcoming #geomob events.
In closing, happy holidays from all of us to all of you. We’re looking forward to a great 2012 (That being said though 2011 isn’t over just yet - we’ll have some more OpenStreetMap related news to share in a few days time).
Fellow Nestortonians,
over the last few months we’ve favoured our twitter account as our way to keep you abreast of new developments. But, with the year winding down we thought we’d take the next few days to once again go “long form”.
Today I kick things off with some great news - we’ve just launched a new partnership between Nestoria India and the Hindustan Times. Nestoria will power the property search of the Hindustan Time’s new property section.
Founded in 1924, the “HT” is a titan of the Indian media scene, and one of the largest English language newspapers in the world. Since we launched Nestoria India earlier this year, we’ve been hard at work fine tuning the service, learning from users (many thanks for all of the feedback), and adding new partners - we’re very pleased to announce this partnership.
We look forward to helping welcoming HT readers to Nestoria and helping them find their next home.
More soon ….
Hear Ye, Nestorcommunters! A few weeks ago now it came to our attention that someone had done something new and cool with the api. The person behind that cooless is Anna Powell-Smith, who ran up a train times vs. house prices graph. It turns out that as well as being a coder, writer and data analyst for hire, Anna is a long-standing volunteer for mySociety, the UK’s leading developer of democratic and civic websites. She’s also worked for the Open Knowledge Foundation, the open data campaigners, and for start-up ScraperWiki. And she made the Domesday Book freely available online for the first time. Which is pretty cool, so this month she’s our interviewee. Thanks for sharing your time, Anna, and the rest of you - enjoy!
How would you describe your work and what would you say your main work interests are?
I’m a front-end web developer, running a little agency, with particular interests in civic coding, open data, online mapping and data journalism.
Can you talk us through also how and why you got into coding - I get the impression that there’s an interesting story there?
It was Napster! I was at university studying English when I installed Napster and was blown away. I thought being able to share music with people like that was just amazing, it really made the world a better place - not because it was free necessarily, but the technical achievement of P2P and the software. After that I knew I wanted to learn to code. It was a bit of a challenge as I didn’t know anything about computers, or anyone who was into them. However I went back and did an MPhil in computer science and slowly taught myself how to be a developer.
Cool! Can you talk us through the why and how of your recent train times vs. house prices graph? Did it reveal what you thought it would, or were there some surprises?
My partner and I started house-hunting on the basis that house prices would get dramatically cheaper an hour away from London, outside the commuter belt. But then we realised we didn’t know if that was true, so I decided to use Nestoria to find out, because it has the best API of any house-hunting site. Working with the API was really a pleasure. It was quite satisfying to see from the graph that house prices do start to fall off more steeply once you get to 60 minutes from London, pretty much what we’d predicted. If you visit London a couple of times a week, the sweet spot looks to be around 90 minutes - too far for even the most hardcore daily commuters.
I was surprised by the bump in house prices at around 4.5 hours from London - it definitely shows that Edinburgh has its own economy!
Google tells me that you’re very involved in open data projects - can you talk about some of the projects you’ve been involved in recently - particularly ScraperWiki, which sounds very cool.
I’ve worked with the Open Knowledge Foundation, who are brilliant campaigners for open data and a rapidly growing international movement. I worked on their OpenSpending project, which aims to track government spending all around the world, and has just been awarded funding by the Knight Foundation.
And I worked on the early days of ScraperWiki, which is a start-up building a community of journalists and coders freeing up data.
Can you also talk us through the basic genesis of ScraperWiki. And give us some examples of some revealing scrapers?
ScraperWiki was set up by Julian Todd, who is a one-man coding powerhouse crossed with an investigative journalist. He set up PublicWhip, which scrapes the voting records of the UK Parliament and turns them into structured open data. So Julian had the original idea of a code wiki, and Francis Irving, the CEO, has turned ScraperWiki into a fully-fledged start-up. Coders like it because they can share and run code easily, and journalists like it because it helps them find data.
One story ScraperWiki exposed was about corporate sponsorship of all-party groups in Parliament - a coder found that corporations and interest groups channeled more than £1.6 million to MPs and lords in one year by sponsoring these groups, and the Guardian reported it.
Are there any datasets that you’d love to have better access to or that you’ve struggled to find and would like to work with?
Oh, so many! I’m interested in land ownership, and am regularly frustrated by the Land Registry’s ownership records not being open. And about half the land in Britain is not actually registered with the Land Registry at all. That’s a really important dataset for transparency.
Fares data for trains would be great, too. And as a house-buyer, I’d love to get proper comparisons between asking prices and selling prices, although it would be a hard one to do properly. One for Nestoria, maybe?
My dream dataset is Nikolaus Pevsner’s guides to architecture. They’re in copyright, but I’d love to build a location-aware app to show you what Pevsner wrote about the buildings nearby.
Thanks for the property related suggestion - I’ll put to ‘the people’m the architecture app sounds really cool - I’d definitely use that. Do you see an opening up of data availability or do you see privacy concerns shutting off information further?
Wow, that’s a big question! In the UK, there are some great data releases going on at the moment - from live bus timetable information to Land Registry house sale prices. And there are lots of interesting start-ups being built on open data, like Nestoria, and OpenCorporates. So in the short term it’s quite positive, but I think the open data movement needs to focus just as much on the long term, because the political environment could always change. We need to make sure we get proper governance and legal protection for open data.
And one more thing - have you come to any conclusions about where you’re going to move to yet?
Heh! Yes, the scraping exercise definitely helped a lot - we like Stroud, Sherborne, Castle Cary and Macclesfield. Now I just have to work out how to use Nestoria to find the perfect house…
Here’s an old rectory in Stroud that looks nice…
Thanks very much for sharing your thoughts with us - and good luck with the house hunt!If you want to hear more of Anna’s thoughts you could follow her on Twitter.
Nestoria aims to present the most useful information about properties in the simplest way possible. As a part of that mission, over the coming months we are going to create a serie of infographics relating current events to the world of real estate. Today, I have the honour to present you our first infographic.
This week, following the recent general election in Spain, we took the opportunity to calculate the average property prices across different districts of Madrid and compare these to the results of the elections.As a quick scan on the infographic will reveal, a predictable conclusion has been that there is a clear correlation between the margin of victory of Partido Popular (PP), a right of centre party, over the incumbent leftist PSOE, and the increase in the average real-estate price. To give an example,this shows the difference between the glamourous shopping area of Goya in Salamanca with traditionally working-class area of Villaverde.
Our results also reveal other interesting trends. For example, we have found that UPyD party’s voting record shows no correlation with housing price. While this party did not win, it seems to have achieved its goal of appealing across different segments of Spanish society. You can find more conclutions of this first infographic in Spanish here and also more information about what is Nestoria data.
We will keep you all updated about future infographics and we hope you find them useful and enjoy them. Don’t forget, we are always willing to listen your suggestions or feedback!
The Spanish government has launched the site Datos.gob.es which organizes and manages the Catalogue of public information. This means that the access to the public information will be improved and, at the same time, it will help to reuse the public information of the General State Administration.
The mentioned Catalogue includes practical and informative resources for the development of products and services with high social and economic value based on the reuse of public sector information.
Who can use it?
It’s open to professionals, businesses, institutional managers and any interested citizens in general.